T&D Daily LIVESTREAM - 6/4/25 - LIVE FROM ORLANDO - @TomandDanLive

• Tom and Dan go live on Twitch and YouTube • Guest Colette, a relationship therapist, joins the show • Jokes about the show's “Sweet 16” anniversary and gifting it a Corvette • Colette shares upcoming dating-focused media appearance in Phoenix • Recap of Colette’s two-week Italy trip and visiting Mount Etna pre-eruption • Story of witnessing the Pope’s announcement in Vatican City • Colette’s Catholic upbringing vs. Dan’s non-religious background • New Pope discussed—American/Peruvian background and mystique • Talk about spiritual leaders providing hope vs. being too relatable • Orlando Magic’s new logo sparks backlash; Dan wore it on the court • Online negativity vs. effort it takes to be positive • Dan proposes a legal 20-year marriage limit with separation and $10k bonus • Colette counters with 10-year renewable marriage licenses • Discussion about co-dependency, appreciation, and auto-renew jokes • “Government goons” bit for enforcing expired marriages • Colette explains people often value relationships more when at risk • Breakdown of emotional imbalance and “discernment counseling” • Only one person is needed to end a relationship • Emotional detachment and warnings from spouses • Sex as emotional connection for men, emotional connection as precursor for women • Colette confirms sex is central in therapy work • Dan jokes he’d improve in a second marriage • People often grow after breakups; it’s not personal • Colette’s own divorce and becoming a therapist after bad counseling • “Doing great” social media posts often mask dysfunction • Colette critiques public PDA as a red flag • Dan admits to grudge-holding and revenge fantasies • Tom tracks people instead of holding grudges • Joke about drinking from a skull for vengeance • Talk about open relationships and non-monogamy • 65% are open to non-monogamy, but only 6% succeed • Strong communication and boundaries required for success • Colette warns feelings can derail open arrangements • She's seen open setups lead to new marriages • Risk is present in all relationship formats • Dan jokes about meeting his wife babysitting and brings up Poison Ivy • 90s babysitter fantasies and movie scenes discussed • Common relationship mistakes: denial, enabling, and avoidance • “Frog in boiling water” analogy for slow relationship decline • Friends confronting infidelity often face backlash • Agreement: stay out unless asked • Enabling behaviors—Andrea manages Dan’s schedule • Healthy support vs. codependence blurred • Colette’s husband does chores; Dan jokes about unused tools • Tom jokes about being carried like a baby upstairs • Colette plugs her podcast Insights from the Couch (top 5% globally) • Her office is in Baldwin Park • Avoidance as a root of disconnection and resentment • Colette announces book The Cost of Quiet on breaking avoidance cycles • Penguin Random House releasing the book • Tom jokes about avoiding reading it despite it being about him • Colette promises signed copies and will return soon ### **Social Media:** [Website](https://tomanddan.com/) | [Twitter](https://twitter.com/tomanddanlive) | [Facebook](https://facebook.com/amediocretime) | [Instagram](https://instagram.com/tomanddanlive) **Where to Find the Show:** [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-mediocre-time/id334142682) | [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL2FtZWRpb2NyZXRpbWUvcG9kY2FzdC54bWw) | [TuneIn](https://tunein.com/podcasts/Comedy/A-Mediocre-Time-p364156/) **The Tom & Dan Radio Show on Real Radio 104.1:** [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-corporate-time/id975258990) | [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL2Fjb3Jwb3JhdGV0aW1lL3BvZGNhc3QueG1s) | [TuneIn](https://tunein.com/podcasts/Comedy/A-Corporate-Time-p1038501/) **Exclusive Content:** [Join BDM](https://tomanddan.com/registration) **Merch:** [Shop Tom & Dan](https://tomanddan.myshopify.com/)